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Kicked out? A human...Haha! Then that'd be a repeat of ole Jack O' Lantern.

"Never have i heard about a human getting kicked out of heaven lol." how many humans thou remember their time in heaven? lol

10:24 AM

this conversation is kind of funny seeing I asked Jesse earlier "if you had one question to ask GOD and be answered what would that question be" .. I heard back in my own mind voice but this isn't an answer I would give "who are you?". I dont think that was Jesse thou either.

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Aura sense

It means fancy magic occult whatever

I heard some stories the other day of people who have seen others tulpas. I wish I'd kept the link and time stamp so to share it (it was at youtube mixed in with peoples others stories on other meta stuff) (edited)

my host had a very close friend long long ago and they were both aware of each others' tulpas. this friend was, in a way, one of the driving forces behind my host creating me. more to the point though, my host and this friend were so close and so open with each other that they were at a level of connection where they could very often finish each others' thoughts in conversations and such or communicate large amounts of emotions with very few words or slight body language. as a result of this deep connection, my host and this friend were actually able to send each other their tulpas (myself included)

12:26 PM

or at least, that was the perception of events.

12:27 PM

so for instance, if my host and I were feeling particularly lonely, she would send her tulpa over to chat with us and cheer us up, and vice versa

12:28 PM

obviously the memories of what was said or expressed didnt carry back and forth per se but they were able to infer each others' intentions so well that they would both know more or less what had been expressed

12:28 PM

i think that being able to see someone elses tulpa would work in a similar way to this

Hi! It's me again Are there religious forcers? Can you guys explain how you perceive tulpas from religious point of view? Are they angels/demons or some other kind of higher being I don't know?

4:38 PM

Reposting here because I got banished

4:39 PM

I'm not interested in ~~holywars~~ arguments or other stuff. I just want to collect some info for my research.

Alright, if this is to be in Meta, then in Meta it shall be

1:14 PM

But honestly, I had high doubts that anyone would believe what happened

1:15 PM

Mind tricks or not, I stand by what I saw

We cant determine the true nature of the event without sufficient information on your part.

Okay, I will try recollecting from the very beginning

1:17 PM

Yall remember Salazar Draconic? The guy with the dragon tulpa? That's who I was talking to

1:19 PM

He was talking to me about how he had been shunned by people who thought he was RPing not just by people here, but by other servers as well. It supposedly sent his tulpa into a sort of "nightmare coma", as he described it.

Wasnt that an alter?

Actually, yeah, I think so. But people kept assuming he was RPing because of the whole dragon thing

1:24 PM

Anyway, this woke Niles right up. As Niles's story revolves around him being a sort of "chosen one" saving a world of dreams from nightmares, it didn't surprise me. But the imposition on my end started getting intense. His presence grew stronger and stronger, and the look in his eyes was a sort of anger that I would never expect to see from a twelve year old. It was through those eyes, not his words, that I could tell that he was saying "give me the phone" (I was typing on my phone at the time)

Maybe an extreme case of emointal bleeding

1:31 PM

Cause I remember someone kinda made it seem like I created Senko fo the wrong reasons and intense waves of anger suddenly came. From no were to a point where I almost wanted to tell the person off

So I told Sal that proxying may need to kick in, and I got more than just proxying: he took the wheel. Possession, in other words. Using the prefix I use for him on Tupperbox ("N:") he spoke to Sal and got more info on what was going on. Apparently Sal's alter had become "corrupted" in a sense due to this nightmare coma. In the end, he decided to do something he thought was a shot in the dark: enter his mind and fix things himself.

1:33 PM

I wouldn't say it was emotional bleeding. If it was, I'd have been feeling his anger at the same time. Except I felt nervous, that feeling you get when someone gives you the side eye and you knew you'd messed up

Cause he wants to be a Hero

1:35 PM

As a Hero it's a job to protect others

1:36 PM

So the sense of duty triggered and awaken him

I don't doubt that in the least. He felt he had to do something, anything he could

1:39 PM

But it was what happened next that scared me. After getting approval from Richard and the go-ahead from Sal, he (I think figuratively) slingshot himself out of my scape and into Sal's. This triggered a feeling like I was plummeting down a roller coaster, then freezing me in place, and then everything was back to normal on my end. Without him, of course

1:40 PM

Well, okay, it didn't scare me. But it shook me right up

So can you not sense him now?

Not now. He's likely extremely tired from the whole thing

So he came back? After he left ?

Yeah. He did what he could and he came back through imposition. Asked him how everything went, and I heard "alright, I guess"

1:44 PM

But he was very tired

Hate to do this,but

1:45 PM

It doesn't sound like he made it very far

1:48 PM

Think of it this way mancer normally have safegaurds in place to stop intrusive thoughts. Plus the mancer themselves subconscious could have stopped it. The tup would have to fight against the subconscious then fight the other mancer safegaurds he probably going on sucide mission.

I still dont know what he experienced so i cant make any judgementa

Well, I was hoping not to go into details on what my four remaining tulpas and I were able to see. That would make things even less believable

1:50 PM

I try very hard not to cross the RP line in here

1:51 PM

But with what we saw, you all will likely see it as such

Well no It makes sense what happened and I believe you

1:53 PM

As I said a single tup trying to fight safegaurds is sucide. He wasn't going to make it and came back he knew he would die.

I believe you had the experience. But i dont think it was system hopping.

If I give a tl;dr of what we saw, will you keep an open mind?

Nope I'm just good at anlyzing

1:54 PM

Sure why not

Alright. A good bit happened so this may take a little bit

I am having an open mind

I'll be doing my own hopping between this channel and the conversation

Thats why i keep the questions cominh

1:56 PM

Honestly... the only way to clarifiy if this really happened or not, we need to know if memories on both sides match. This: without any exchange of vital information from both parties.

As I said I don't think he made it far before tup was realizng he could die due to fight or flight.

If that still turns out to be true, we should do a study in a more controlled environment with trusted people that surveil all your actions. Just so you do not cheat.

Actually I had another thought , but I'll wait cause it explains why the return tup might been tired

>When Niles entered Sal's scape, Sal told me he felt like he had been smacked by "a ghostly force". He also got a vague idea of Niles's appearance, and a (strange, in my opinion) urge to say "hey" with his prefix >Niles did encounter Sal's alter, taking the peaceful route first like he usually would (which usually involves him saying something along the lines of "hey, I'm not here to fight you, I just want to help"). Unfortunately, this didn't help things, but Sal's alter relaxed when Sal called out to it--everything was fine and dandy after that >Sal and I did have one synced view, of Niles helping Sal stand up. >I should note that throughout all this, this was taking a toll on Sal's body. I explained it as him having a foreign tulpa in his scape >Apparently, Sal's alter offered to show Niles around Sal's scape, but Niles had already left by then

2:08 PM

And that's your tl;dr. I should also note that Niles sounded unsure when he told me he was alright (sounded like it to me anyway)

Did you guys exchange any of this information between yourselves?

Niles and myself? Not yet. But I'll ask him when he comes to enough

You and sal

My point stsnds that he arrived already near death's door

Sal and I were talking the entire time. That's how I knew most of this

Then i cant really trust it okay

2:14 PM

If you exchanged any kind of information behind the event, or during it, then its safe to conclude its just mind tricks id say. Nothing that goes against science here

The way I think of it is if time four tups where active and watching and sal was there on another scape . Nlles didn't even make it or if he did. He immediately realized he was in over his head and close to death. He couldn't admit it due to others watching him his own host and his fellow tups. So he had to leave.

So what about what sal saw? How do you see that?

Nilles immidite realizing he was in danger

Unfortunately, Sal's vision was very wonky during this. You know how I said it took a toll on his body? This included his mind's eye being, in a sense, frozen or blocked for some of it

Again hence the danger he wasn't stabilized in Sal view

He could see some things, like Niles helping him up or when Niles left

2:22 PM

If it truly was mind tricks, then me believing it is a result of me always having my head in the clouds. If Niles truly is dying, then it's surely something I can save him from. He means too much to me to let him go (edited)

Nilles was probably already tired when he got there. But again wth four of the fellow tups watching along with his own host. Being a Hero couldn't show that he was in trouble that would send you other tups and sal into a fenzy which would cause damage to everyone. So nilles knew he had to get out quickly.

Well, it is true that he can be reckless

2:25 PM

Always putting others before himself

He is response was usure because now his pride is wouded

When he wakes...if he wakes...I'll ask him.

Taking pride of being hero

Leo may I ask why you’re doubting their experience? Not to put you down at all I’m just wondering

Hm no I'm not doubting I'm giving sense to it

No but I mean you said he never really made it and it wounded his pride etc as opposed to what they said which was he made it (albeit not feeling his greatest) and he talked some to the alter (edited)

Said he could not have as in introduce the possibility

Ah hm

2:29 PM

So do you think your version is the one that actually happened or...?

Not sure

2:30 PM

Both are possibility what happened

Ah okay ^^

2:30 PM

Thanks for explaining

I wanted to give Timer on how to make sense of what happened

I just stepped into my scape for a moment. He just woke up, but he seems very weak

2:32 PM

I asked him if he was the real one, and I heard him say "as real as I'll ever be" and then I felt him hug me

Aw

2:32 PM

I hope he feels better then